tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post3861608025284105978..comments2023-09-14T11:14:32.771-07:00Comments on Early Electric Fans (Be sure to check the ARCHIVE on sidebar at right): Dating early Emerson 60 cycle and DC current brass blade fansUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-77204925713036131602022-08-29T15:57:09.028-07:002022-08-29T15:57:09.028-07:00Steve, I am working on an Emerson fan 27666 I rewo...Steve, I am working on an Emerson fan 27666 I reworked from base to stator. It works however rotor is turning wrong direction. Is it possible that I have the leads incorrectly? <br />Andrew Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-65489179845789284672022-06-20T11:43:33.857-07:002022-06-20T11:43:33.857-07:00I was told the 1902.. 1010 Emerson fan is NOT a 2...I was told the 1902.. 1010 Emerson fan is NOT a 2 speed I hav one and it's very little difference in speed. Most towns around 1902 were lucky to have electricity and if they did the power would very up and down so when it was low you would run fan on first setting.. When Hi you would run it on 2nd setting going through base transformer..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-23993950577881796162022-03-28T11:39:41.965-07:002022-03-28T11:39:41.965-07:00For an answer please fill out the CONTACT ME form ...For an answer please fill out the CONTACT ME form near the top of any page. Without a way to contact you back I can't answer your question because, in this case, I will need to see a photo of your fan or, at least, get more information. The model number of an Emerson is the TYPE No.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-31367731213852202682022-03-27T20:12:24.959-07:002022-03-27T20:12:24.959-07:00I just bought a Emerson oscillating fan 8" ca...I just bought a Emerson oscillating fan 8" can't locate a model #. It does have a on off switch on the base. Appears to have brass blades. 110/60 cycle motor. It has a port on the back of the motor to put machine oil. It is in working condition. Any info would be Greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. <br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18061656266246784118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-78654997609217777292020-08-12T20:51:00.934-07:002020-08-12T20:51:00.934-07:00Hi Terry, Your Type 11648 is a a nice and uncommon...Hi Terry, Your Type 11648 is a a nice and uncommon 16" model. Being that it is an early model made only for 1910-11 they are not seen often. For specific information you will need to shot me your name and email with a message (see near the top right of any blog page. Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-19588232451651159892020-08-12T20:45:27.065-07:002020-08-12T20:45:27.065-07:00You are correct on the dates of the 73648 Types. ...You are correct on the dates of the 73648 Types. Starting in 1929 I believe but definitely by 1930, Emerson added a small two digit number to their motor tags, usually in the lower right corner. If you add "20" to that number it will give the year the fan was made.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-62871894650149289522020-08-12T15:12:33.786-07:002020-08-12T15:12:33.786-07:00I have acquired an old Emerson fan. The type is 73...I have acquired an old Emerson fan. The type is 73648. From what I read it dates it 1928-1939. Would there be additional information on it somewhere to get a more exact year ? I see mention of a motor tag. Would I need to disassemble the fan to access this ? Thanks in advance.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652923369008188437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-85859525201360341412020-03-14T14:16:18.452-07:002020-03-14T14:16:18.452-07:00I have an Emerson type 11468 fan and I can't f...I have an Emerson type 11468 fan and I can't find any info. on it. any helpTerry Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245353247907638009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-57018462446247612782018-05-01T11:56:43.312-07:002018-05-01T11:56:43.312-07:00Hi kristinafina. The N.P. 2631 only means "N...Hi kristinafina. The N.P. 2631 only means "Name Plate # 2631" and is the part number I would say for the name plate itself but not anything meaningful. You should be able to date your fan to a particular year. Look on the motor tag in the lower right hand corner for a very small two digit "date code". Add 20 to that number to get the year your fan was made. Hopefully the date code will be visible. I have a 79646-AT with a "28" date code making the fan from 1948. I like these fans, very well built. I can't tell you what the "BB" means on the Type number but it's probably specific to the government model which has some differences from the civilian models.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-76651250374121300282018-04-28T20:35:53.656-07:002018-04-28T20:35:53.656-07:00I have an Emerson Electric 79648-BB Gov't fan....I have an Emerson Electric 79648-BB Gov't fan. Don't know whether the N.P. 2631 means anything? I rescued it from a new neighbor cleaning a deceased neighbor's house out and throwing it away. Any idea what year this would be? kristinafinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919249838666553931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-5514857165086804232018-02-23T19:48:07.334-08:002018-02-23T19:48:07.334-08:00I was unaware of what your Type 9626 was but found...I was unaware of what your Type 9626 was but found it as the last entry in John Witt's book ELECTRIC FANS. That type was made in 1955 and was a Northwind 12" oscillator, bronze finish. That is all the information given. You might find more information on the Antique Fan Collectors Post-1950 forum if you post with your request.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-74585506605899005222018-02-22T16:31:05.158-08:002018-02-22T16:31:05.158-08:00I have 94626, have any info on it I can't find...I have 94626, have any info on it I can't find it, thanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12219398427274482489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-44374327986975541132018-02-22T16:30:25.189-08:002018-02-22T16:30:25.189-08:00Hi I have a type 94626, I can't find any info ...Hi I have a type 94626, I can't find any info it, can u help year made, it still has sticker underneath, Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12219398427274482489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-30215839468809299382017-11-21T16:25:28.572-08:002017-11-21T16:25:28.572-08:00Again, an educated guess after looking at a number...Again, an educated guess after looking at a number of Emerson catalogs posted on the AFCA website (for members only). The 73646 was a successor in 1937 that replaced the old 29646 last offered in 1936. The 73646 gained the force feed lubrication feature that the 16" 63648 had had for a few years. The 73646 AK continued through at least 1939 (don't have access to a 1940 catalog) and that seems to be the end of that model other than a chrome plated version in 1914, also 73646 AK. The replacement for the 73646 was the 79646 AQ in 1942. The best I can tell is that the 73646 kept the old Parker blades from the later 29646s but the 79646 had a very different style of blade. The catalogs don't mention that I saw what the AK or AQ or other letters were for but it could be various changes in specifications and, on some models, possibly the color variant. Good workhouse fans of the later 1930s. <br />Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-26654677846278393572017-11-21T12:45:39.566-08:002017-11-21T12:45:39.566-08:00I am not certain but I believe that the G at the e...I am not certain but I believe that the G at the end of your type number refers to "government" and would be a fan with two bearings unlike most Emersons which had a single bearing. If the blade on your fan has a set screw that is what it is, a made for the government with separate bearing in the front and in the rear of the motor. Also look in the front for an oil cup or an oil port to oil the front bearing. If there is one it's a government fan.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-61616102691301806002017-11-21T10:22:13.493-08:002017-11-21T10:22:13.493-08:00I have a type 73646 AK-G, can you tell me what the...I have a type 73646 AK-G, can you tell me what the AK-G is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-42238574499853906852017-09-12T12:03:34.177-07:002017-09-12T12:03:34.177-07:00This diagram is from a very knowledgeable Emerson ...This diagram is from a very knowledgeable Emerson restorer from the AFCA. Be sure to use the 29656 diagram (the 28646 is identical but is the non-oscillating version of the 29646). Earlier Emersons used a different wiring schematic so be sure to pick the appropriate diagram. <br /><br />I have posted the diagram at the end of my Emerson blog posts above.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-10477058556926436592017-09-12T11:37:13.360-07:002017-09-12T11:37:13.360-07:00I am restoring a Emerson type 28646, #K70888. Wher...I am restoring a Emerson type 28646, #K70888. Where can I find a wiring diagramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-36230781242729576562016-06-29T15:48:34.193-07:002016-06-29T15:48:34.193-07:00A good question Eddie and it's sometimes possi...A good question Eddie and it's sometimes possible to accurately date Emersons. From 1929 Emerson started to include what we call a "date code" on the motor tag of seemingly all of their fans and continued into the 1950s. Look for a small two digit (1929 was a single digit) in the lower right corner (or in other locations on other models) and add 20 to that date code number. The first date code on the larger fans, 12 and 16", was "9" so that would have been made in 1929. So how do you date an Emerson made before 1929? Their JUNIOR models had a date code earlier starting maybe with a "1" but I have seen a "3" which would be 1923. The larger fans had no date code. In 1925 or 26 the new "Built to Last" cage badge was introduced so that will get you closer. Before that I don't know of a way to closely date the larger Emerson fans. Other changes over the years such as the change from the low "screen door" carrying handle to a higher handle are hard to impossible to date.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-41717926182151455442016-06-29T14:18:55.592-07:002016-06-29T14:18:55.592-07:00I have recently got a pretty ice 29646 was wonderi...I have recently got a pretty ice 29646 was wondering if there is a positive way to find the year it was made any help would be appreciated thanksEddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-59741296750925829472016-02-02T10:45:44.773-08:002016-02-02T10:45:44.773-08:00I am not sure exactly what you did when you say th...I am not sure exactly what you did when you say that the fan blade came off leaving the hub on as the blade is permanently attached to the hub (of the blade). Maybe you meant by HUB what is the front part of the rotor. I hope you got it all ok. Emerson blade removal can be tricky and, at time, extremely difficult. Emersons are great fans with some unique construction. If you want you can contact me via the CONTACT ME at the top of this blog. I will send you my email so you can send photos if I can be of help.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-92169358592534684772016-01-31T20:16:25.925-08:002016-01-31T20:16:25.925-08:00Thank you for making this information available. B...Thank you for making this information available. Before I found this site I was taking apart my sister's Emerson 73648 using the 'look at it and figure it out' method. I thought the fan blade had a welch plug covering the nut holding it to the shaft which could be removed with hammer and chisel. It was a surprise when the fan blade come off leaving the hub on but it did open up new methods for getting the hub off. Without the blade the front cover comes right off. There are 2 holes in the armature which will accept a pin wrench or homemade holding tool. With the armature properly held a vise grip or pipe wrench should remove the hub as long as I remember about the LEFT HAND THREADS.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07675326495383255996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-19936998585448962402015-12-11T17:32:14.266-08:002015-12-11T17:32:14.266-08:00Hi Larry, the Emerson 12646 is a scarce and very n...Hi Larry, the Emerson 12646 is a scarce and very nice earlier Emerson and I wish you luck on your restoration. I have little experience in working deeply into fans but this thread should be of some help to you:<br />http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=18376&forum_id=1&highlight=1510+Emerson+Centrifugal<br /><br />You will need to remove the rotor to get at the centrifugal start switch. There is a nut of sorts on the front of the rotor bearing after you get the fan blade off which, in itself, can be quite a chore. If you don't know how to do that get back to me; better yet use the CONTACT ME form near the top right of this blog and I will get back to you. Once the rotor is removed you'll see the switch in the back of the motor held to the motor housing with three screws. Remove them as a first step. The switch itself with the red fiber insulator discs may be hard to remove. I think it kind of gets "glued" to the motor and has to be carefully persuaded or pried out. The switch leads are attached to the stator (motor windings) and can be unsoldered or removed along with the stator. I hope this helps and let me know via the Contact Form if you have other problems or questions. The AFCA website has a search function that should give you some more info. The bearing shaft, by the way, is pressed into the motor housing and should not be removed.<br />SteveSteve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-63417242221364675892015-12-11T16:12:31.176-08:002015-12-11T16:12:31.176-08:00Hi,
I've got a 12" Emerson No. 172213 Typ...Hi,<br />I've got a 12" Emerson No. 172213 Type 12646 that I'm restoring. The poor thing has survived being submerged at some point in it's life. It was being used as a doorstop to hold open a barn door at an estate sale/auction of an old farm. I've managed to get most of it apart with the exception of removing the stator winding, and centrifugal switch. It appears that the bearing shaft has to be removed to remove the switch, is this correct?Larry Buskirknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899386913397202052.post-3555268315081836762015-10-02T08:43:54.144-07:002015-10-02T08:43:54.144-07:00Hi Rod, the 16" 14648 is a nice fan from 1912...Hi Rod, the 16" 14648 is a nice fan from 1912 and probably 1913. As to the value I can't help you there due to the broken base and not having seen your fan. Condition and originality or quality of a restoration plays a large part in value so photos are a must. Even then I am not very good on values. Watching similar fans on eBay or checking SOLD LISTINGS can be a good way to find values. For the base I would suggest you place a wanted ad for a replacement base on the Antique Fan Collectors Association website on the Buy-Sell-Trade forum. No charge to do that and adding a photo of your broken base and fan would be helpful. Some fan collectors have successfully repaired broken bases from those Emersons that, not infrequently, have a crescent shaped piece broken out of the base due to improper packing. Yes, cast iron is very fragile. Either the existing piece broken from the base cane be brazed or welded back on then finishing done to blend it into the base or the missing piece can be filled in with epoxy or JB Weld. That takes time and some knowledge but the results can made a broken part look nearly good as new. Search the "pre-1950 forum" for any posts that have been made on fixing broken bases. I know that there have been several posts over the years. Good luck with your big old Emerson.Steve Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653542491431248119noreply@blogger.com